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After the AGM, a few issues were presented and discussed.

Child Protection - Emma Cliffe

In response to a question received recently, Emma explained that we intend to have a new “Policies” page on the website. It will contain the child protection policy and other policies including safeguarding vulnerable adults. These are matters which the MSA takes very seriously and so as a responsible club, we have to do so as well. Emma mentioned that she had been informed by the MSA that Drugs and Alcohol abuse are an area that the MSA is looking at.  They are likely to be doing random tests, so members should be aware.

Race  Structure and Formats  - Douglas McLay

Douglas explained that in 2016 entry fees had not covered costs.  The club had contracted for too many races in 2016, having believed there was a demand. As a result, average grids were down. The GP races proved popular.  A review indicated that the middle of the season was impacted by Spa resulting in fewer entries for Monoposto rounds. As a result, this year we have settled the championship calendar first, which due to the Grand Prix changes took a while, outside the control of Monoposto or MSVR. Roadbook’s event came too close to our races for us to promote (and was also expensive due to € effects). We considered the possibility of Zandvoort, but after the F1 changes that too was too close to our programme.

From the drivers’ meeting in September we concluded that 3 races and 1 practice was likely to be a popular format.  We have also dropped the “club” versions of GP tracks (Silverstone and Brands). Keeping the season between April and September should improve the chances of acceptable weather.

3-race meetings will have a Saturday practice. Race 1 and Race 2 grids will be determined by the best and second best times of each competitor, with the third gird based on Race 2 finishing positions. As in previous years, grid mix will default to the 2litre classes, and 16/18/14/1000. This may change if we are oversubscribed on one grid but can allow in more competitors by varying the grid content. In response to John Hare’s question on problems causing a failure to complete 3 laps, the history of MSVR in getting members into a race was recalled by Douglas and supported by Nick Harrison who said in 10 years of this system in F3Cup he could not recall a non-start through being unable to complete 3 laps. It was agreed that rapid action by the co-ordinator and also by the competitor/team is helpful in arranging qualifying out of session.

Overseas Rounds – Peter Venn from the floor

Roadbook are organising a meeting on the same weekend as last year (24/25 June). There is a race for F3 cars from the F3Cup (though not organised by MSVR), Austria and Italy. Initially the offer is to F3-type 2 litre cars, but may be extended later. The format (20min Px2, 20min race x2) is as previously, but the cost is €1,150. In date fuel cells are likely to be a requirement. Contact via PV.

ROPS – Terry Clark/Jon Reed

TCl noted that the blue book has a roll bar specification, but if the roll bar is certificated then it need not comply with the specs. However, scrutineers could ask for the certificate, official copies of which are obtainable from the MSA Technical Department (believed to cost £35).
JR: During an application for a Hillclimb LogBook, a scrutineer queried the roll hoop. As a result, Jedis may require modification and are being issued with certificates for each car. Jedi owners should contact the factory.

“The Way Forward” – Russ Giles

The board had recently met to discuss the MRC strategy and talked through its “success factors”. A paper discussing a package of changes will be issued later in the year, but the outline is currently as follows. There are no decisions, these are proposals, the aim is to please the majority.

There is a wish to reduce the number of classes to 4.

Engines in the F3 class have been discussed and a paper published after discussions with various stakeholders. There is clearly no easy solution for the next generation of engine. The 2 most popular current engines are Vauxhall XE and Toyota 3SGE.Currently parts are readily available. Going forward, RG suggested following the FF Kent model of working with the class and specifying suitable non-manufacturer parts.

Peter Venn outlined the problems in fitting a traditional engine to a late model Dallara. The “modern” F3 engines to 2016 are based on a mix of parts, butPG suggested it could be possible to specify a smaller capacity version of a long stroke engine which in VVT form may match current engines. RG noted that this year marked a new generation of 05/07 cars and the next generation will not arise until at least 2021.


The board believes that tyre usage is not an issue except in F3. Spec tyres had been a suggestion but this is not practical since a manufacturer agreement is needed.  We have therefore adopted a discretionary (SR) rule limiting cars to one set of slicks per meeting subject to force majeure. Scrutineers may take bar codes from Avons and Pirellis, and other means with other makes. Peter Venn, supported by Richard Purcell, urged the rule to allow previously registered tyres. Dan Fox and Ben Cater also supported past tyre usage. Nick Harrison confirmed the scheme was used in Group C and Masters GP. RG agreed to investigate.

John Hare asked where the 1600s had gone. It was agreed more 1600s would be a positive.


Len Turner enquired about Tiedeman. DM gave the dates, and said we are currently investigating Anglesey and Brands Indy in November. Despite laughter about Anglesey in November, a show of hands supported that option.